There is an increasingly common sentiment among women here in the USA, not sure if this is true where you are. But women are often complaining that they do not like to be approached in public while out and about. These women say that they just want to go grocery shopping or get a coffee in peace without being approached. Now to be fair, there are also many women who would welcome a respectful approach by a man. How often do you run into women that do not welcome an approach by men?
PS I see this attitude primarily on Reddit discussion. Perhaps that demographic is more anti-approach?
I'm based in Australia, but we do see a bit of this sentiment here too. From what I can tell, if we ignore the small subset who are online virtue-signallers competing in their "victimhood Olympics", graceful approaches by well-calibrated men are almost always tolerated if not actually welcomed. It's the clumsy approaches that trigger the complaints.
We also have a problem in some locations (e.g. city book stores, busy plazas, etc) where PUA coaches take their groups to practise approaching and overcome approach anxiety. Again, the guys causing the offence here tend to be socially clumsy, and women may be approached by multiple guys following the same patterns in a short space of time. There are actually book stores in Sydney and Melbourne where this was becoming so problematic that they explicitly banned pickup activity in the stores, and security guards enforce this.
That's an interesting anecdote about the PUA's at the bookstore. I can see where that might be distressing to some patrons.
I suspect you are right about a well calibrated approach being accepted. I'm not sure how calibrated I am. I've had some chilly responses to my approaches but nobody has ever been mean and many times we end up having a fun convo even if it doesn't end up in a date. And some have actually turned into dates. I suspect that even if you are kind of awkward, if you are respectful and take no for an answer you will be mostly OK.
Another good article mate.
There is an increasingly common sentiment among women here in the USA, not sure if this is true where you are. But women are often complaining that they do not like to be approached in public while out and about. These women say that they just want to go grocery shopping or get a coffee in peace without being approached. Now to be fair, there are also many women who would welcome a respectful approach by a man. How often do you run into women that do not welcome an approach by men?
PS I see this attitude primarily on Reddit discussion. Perhaps that demographic is more anti-approach?
I'm based in Australia, but we do see a bit of this sentiment here too. From what I can tell, if we ignore the small subset who are online virtue-signallers competing in their "victimhood Olympics", graceful approaches by well-calibrated men are almost always tolerated if not actually welcomed. It's the clumsy approaches that trigger the complaints.
We also have a problem in some locations (e.g. city book stores, busy plazas, etc) where PUA coaches take their groups to practise approaching and overcome approach anxiety. Again, the guys causing the offence here tend to be socially clumsy, and women may be approached by multiple guys following the same patterns in a short space of time. There are actually book stores in Sydney and Melbourne where this was becoming so problematic that they explicitly banned pickup activity in the stores, and security guards enforce this.
That's an interesting anecdote about the PUA's at the bookstore. I can see where that might be distressing to some patrons.
I suspect you are right about a well calibrated approach being accepted. I'm not sure how calibrated I am. I've had some chilly responses to my approaches but nobody has ever been mean and many times we end up having a fun convo even if it doesn't end up in a date. And some have actually turned into dates. I suspect that even if you are kind of awkward, if you are respectful and take no for an answer you will be mostly OK.
Thanks for the insights